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To be honest, in the official papers they did not use it for either CMS or ATLAS.

I use this bookmarklet on phone when I encounter a page like that and it usually make things better.

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It does three things, It adds a viewport meta tag for a proper mobile scaling. Prevents long words/URLs from breaking thr page layout and disables automatic font size adjustment on Safari in landscape mode


And proton is a Swiss company operating under the Swiss Jurisdiction too.

The funny thing is that Proton is considering moving our of Switzerland, because of the new proposed surveillance laws...

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/ai-governance/proton-does-not-t...


The funnier thing is that they opted for Germany which as I understand have similar laws.

I only maintain a profile on LinkedIn because it is standard and expected. But I never open the website except when I get notification maybe on important message or to update significant part. I don't read posts or anything else. I even block the website on my AdGuard Home instance and added it to kagi seach blocked sites.

I don't see any reason why would I try to engage with people there. And that's even before LLMs, they just made it much worse.


Wow, this gives a reflection about our future. The nearest potentially habitable planet known is Proxima Centauri b, which orbits the red dwarf star Proxima Centauri about 4 light‑years from Earth (at least it is in a habitable zone of its star) [1]. So we don't have a choice actually except protecting and make sure our planet survives. That's regardless if it really would be able to support life as we know or not (probably not).

[1] https://science.nasa.gov/resource/proxima-b-3d-model/


I think there are a few movies that made me realize how much the space is vast, empty and adverse to life.

I think it would be nice for people to take a look at them:

- Aniara (2018)

- High Life (2018)

and maybe in a less artistic view:

- Powers of Ten (1977) yt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKBhvDjuy0


I showed my 6 year old son Powers of Ten a few nights ago and I think I accidentally gave him an existential crisis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEHCCsFFIuY

Try that to give him a sense of awe. Watch it on a big screen, all the way to the end.


Seeing "Powers of Ten" on TV is an early childhood memory, it really made a lasting impression. Of course I did not remember its name, but now I finally could watch it again! Thank you!

In my opinion, if we really want a presence off of earth we'd be better off building larger and larger space habitats and bootstrapping a mining industry in space.

Daniel Suarez [1] has written a book where he imagined how this could happen (Delta-v)

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Suarez_(author)

P.S. Read a lot of his book, great author


I loved Daemon, and FreedomTM.

> if we really want a presence off of earth we'd be better off building larger and larger space habitats and bootstrapping a mining industry in space

This turns entirely on how human biology works in zero versus low gravity. (Same for spin versus natural, or linear, gravity.)

The experiments we need to be doing is building and launching space stations and planetary bases for mice.


I can't wait for all the studies making the news that end with "in mice in space"

Agreed. Once it becomes commercially viable to start building things in space, it'll take off on its own. There will be constant pressure to build faster, safer, more capable craft. Whether that will lead to something like FTL isn't possible to know, but at the very least it's a step towards a space-faring civilization.

Yep, so long as there are clear, positive incentives or it could become a corrupt, expensive boondoggle depriving ordinary people on Earth. And Mars ain't it except underground.

Nit: "earth" is dirt, but "Earth" is always capitalized when referring to the celestial body we inhabit.


Space is cool, and I support the scientific work some of its pioneers discover. But the category of people who believe space travel is somehow the solution to problems on Earth give me headaches.

Even if we find another habitable planet, figure out how to get there, start a colony, what in the world makes us think we won't fuck up that planet like we've fucked up this one?

Whoever is currently alive won't live to see the absolute worse that earth is going to be in upcoming centuries, if the human civilization even survives until then

I try not to succumb to this attitude. Humans are remarkably able to build systems and technology to solve complex problems. The fact that we aren't making the needed changes now fast enough doesn't rule out that we might as it becomes more apparently necessary, or that some new plan will emerge which helps dramatically.

But we also cannot get complacent thinking that it's future generations problem. We need a breakthrough yesterday.


Note that a journey to a star a 100 light years away where you accelerate and decelerate with a constant 1 g for each half of the journey only takes 9 years of subjective time for the traveller (hence the twin paradox). To Proxima Centauri (4.24 ly) the gain isn’t as dramatic, it would take 3.5 years of subjective time.

Of course, we aren’t anywhere near having the technology for that, and there may not be any suitable planets in that vicinity, but it also doesn’t seem completely impossible.


Gliese 710 will pass 0.17 light years from us in a bit over 1M years. If we can colonize mars and build some infrastructure in the solar system by then, we should have an OK shot at getting something there to stay. It'll be 62 light days away.

I have an optimistic view that building underground facilities on Mars/Lunar might not be a far-stretched idea. But I have never done any research into the idea so not whether it works or not.

Basically, reducing costs and tech requirements by going underground (since it is underground we do not need to terraform the planet, and it is less likely to leak oxygen to external environment). Digging dirts and stones is a solvable problem. So optimistically I believe this is just an engineering/cost problem.


Mars is less habitable than the least habitable state we could let the earth in without being extinct. This is silly.

Almost understating the point if anything. Mars is less habitable than the bottom of the Marina trench. An environment that could kill every person on earth in a millisecond.

Yeah it is a silly thought. But one can hope. I wish I could work in the space, or anything related.

Yes, the distances are mind-boggling. There are a few somewhat realistic solutions for making such a trip in the forseeable future. If you send something of significant mass, it is certain to take a long time. So we're either talking generation ships(§), embryo space colonization (growing into adults en route or at destination) or hibernation. That or a breakthrough in fundamental physics.

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(§) Something like O'Neill cylinders with fusion as energy source could work


This old video is a beautiful and astounding demonstration of just how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big the Universe is, and where in all this endless space our dear favourite little Pale Blue Dot (Earth) resides:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X-3Oq_82XNA

We all Earthlings are extremely lucky to be alive and thriving (or trying to) in such a beautiful bountiful rarest-of-rare ecosystem that somehow survived and thrived despite all the vagaries and vastness of spacetime.


I think the video I have linked above is Google's tribute to this Power Of Ten video (linked below, thanks to user dtgriscom for sharing the link in another comment), a classic video that demonstrates the scale of the Universe from the micro to the macro perspectives in a scaling increase by a factor of ten for each scene.

Power of 10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKBhvDjuy0

Another relevant video (thanks to user christev for sharing the link): A Brief History of Geologic Time: https://youtu.be/rWp5ZpJAIAE

Absolutely humbling to realise how infinitesimally small and irrelevant our existence is, in the grand scheme of theme. Nature and science are amazing.



Or we learn how to make uninhabitable planets habitable. Would also help us “save” this one.

(Funny how we say “save the planet” when we really mean “save people/complex life”).


Given that there is very little interest in developing commons here on earth (especially new types of commons from whole cloth), the shape that "making uninhabitable planets habitable" would likely take is that of living in bubbles rather than some kind of broad-scale terraforming. This would intrinsically shape society towards top-down authoritarian control, rather than allowing for distributed individual liberty. In this light, Earth's bountiful distributed air, water, and wildlife should be viewed as a technological-society-bootstrapping resource similar to easily-accessible oil and coil stored energy deposits.

Some handwavy logic there, both on why bubbles instead of terraforming and also why authoritarian control given bubbles.

It's not "handwavy logic". It called reasoning based on heuristics developed from many observations (ie wisdom).

From what I've seen here now on Earth, large scale coordination of projects where the benefits end up mostly diffuse is effectively impossible, especially in the modern environment. Thus private ownership of scaled back projects, organized by corporate authoritarianism as we see for most businesses here now on earth.

Could we possibly have an Earth country/company developing open-space terraforming, investing with the idea they will develop owned colonies, but then a popular revolt throws off the authoritarian control and institutes distributed rights (ala the American Revolution) ? Sure, that's possible. But that also just seems unlikely to be given modern information systems facilitating large scale surveillance, sentiment control, and promoting singular authoritarian perspectives. Like we're currently in the process of rolling back those hard-won distributed rights here now on Earth ("slowly at first, then all at once").


your heuristics is "last 50 years of US history", and you've now applied that to "That's how the whole multi planetary blob of humanity will operate".

I think "handywavy logic" is now being generous.

What about widening your heuristics to consider all of human history and see how much more freedom, autonomy and large scale coordination we have in place compared to say... the dark ages, or earlier.


Proxima flares and bathes Proxima Centauri b in radiation when it does, so it seems unlikely to be particularly habitable. But it's still tantalising...

Well I guess real end of the world will come around when we crash with Andromeda.

When Andromeda and the Milky Way collide there will be no planets or solar systems that collide from either system. A fascinating fact in in own right, it's simply due to the scale of the galaxies and that they are mostly composed of empty space.

Unless we find the means to manipulate our own star or the orbit of Earth we most likely will not be around at that time. The sun's increased luminosity will boil us way earlier.

Can you elaborate on this, hopefully with details and sources including the revenue stream that CERN is getting as a cooperation?


In such scientific environment, There are gentlemen agreements about many things that boils down to "Don't be an asshole" or "Be considerate of the others" with some hard requirements at this or that point for things that are very serious.


I also confirm that I did not submitted a claim to be included.


Author here.

What I mean is that for an institution of higher education and intellectual research, the bar for ethical action should be higher. An apology (with guarantees and plans for improvement with oversight) is better than put a low price and call it cost of doing business. The damages or negative consequences are going to happen no matter what as information is already out there.

My point is not about the money that as person I would get or not. My personal private information is mine and should be protected and the law require that. If anyone consider that it is worthless or not is irrelevant. And because the affect does happen on a scale. This breach for example affect probably close to 200k or more (maybe much more).

My point is we shouldn't normalize that, just if "corruption" is widespread in a place then we should fight it not just say this is how things works. Same thing should happen here. And we should hold people responsible for the decisions liable. This way the simple decision of ignoring cybersecurity or outsource to the lowest bidder suddenly becomes unattractive.

Also I don't understand the logic is that because I got "abused metaphorically" before then it is not a big deal if this happens to me again. Why do we accept this in such case and not in others? And actually in my particular case, the university breach was probably the first breach of my personal information (others happen later). why would that change anything?


“ What I mean is that for an institution of higher education and intellectual research, the bar for ethical action should be higher.”

Who is the highest paid state employee in Minnesota? Hint: he works for umn.edu … [1]

Who controls the largest budget at umn?

Who drives the largest revenue for the state university program and hires and fires the other highest paid employees of the state?

I am sorry to say that your expectations of the sports media enterprise that happens to also be a university are misplaced.

Big conference universities are development leagues for the NFL and that is where expectations for behavior should be calibrated.

[1] PJ Fleck - $7M annual salary in 2025.


> An apology (with guarantees and plans for improvement with oversight) is better than put a low price and call it cost of doing business

How when this is a 0 price of doing business? And there is a plan: "the University has increased its vigilance in securing information that it maintains", after all "The safety and privacy of all members of the University community are a top priority" https://system.umn.edu/data-incident (this is from 23, not 21). And I'm sure there is some admin position for "oversight"! So if you're after empty words, they have those in spades! And would add the apology you requested if not for the extra legal cost, so I don't see how any of that is better.

> Also I don't understand the logic

Because you've perverted the logic from into some vague metaphorical abuse that can harm every time it happens.

> Why do we accept this in such case and not in others?

We don't because settlements such as this do not depend on whether the info is already public, so you get paid regardless. But also because in such case there is no harm (info is already public), and in other cases there is.

> why would that change anything?

for the exact same reason - because harm depends on the first publishing and you were talking about compensating for harm


No, you will need another layer of down detector.


That'll be HN indeed.


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